How solid is the black vote for Obama?

[Terry]

Obama will get 90%+ of the black vote. But I suspect the number of black voters will be much reduced. Maybe they won't vote for a white guy but they'll be damned before they vote Obama again. That's something at least.

Regarding intelligence: Part of the problem is this bizarre idea "we're all just people". We are all human, but we all have very large differences. In today's PC world "difference"= inferiority. In the world I used to know differences were positives. We all have them. At the individual, cultural, gender and racial level. Europeans are great at discovery...and making big, monolithic government. Not so great at taking ideas to fruition. Asians are great at taking someone else's idea and making it matter. And at making even bigger, nastier monolithic governments. Blacks excel at culture and music and family. They suck at government of any form.

And, as a redman, I'm really not sure what we're good at but I'd really like someone to tell me so I have something to brag about.

Anyway, within each group is overlap. And those who are far smarter than their norm...and far dumber. But general patterns exist no matter how much the leftist mindset wants to describe us as all one homogenous mush. We should be extolling the virtues of those differences and use them to our advantage but, then, accomplishment isn't big on the PC list of Things to Do.

It's true...can't ignore the patterns or history.

[SophisticatedRedneck]

I have no doubt that many blacks will once again vote for Barrack Huessein Obama is spite of his failures to them and their nation. However, I sense that Democrat turnouts at the polls on November 6th won't be as strong as it was in 2008 for several reasons:

a. The honeymoon is over: The novelty has worn off. Blacks have enjoyed their first black president in the nation's history for nearly four years. Well, he's only half black but why let a mere genetic detail spoil the moment? Let's not forget that the also appointed the most incompetent and perhaps corrupt attorney general in the nation's history who also happens to be black. A man who refuses to speak the truth about "Fast and Furious", gave the New Black Panthers a pass and believes that requring voters to provide valid ID at the polls is somehow a return to the days of "Jim Crow".

b. Obama's got this election licked": I believe that many blacks believe that their president will win this election in record numbers. The fact that 2012 DNC has elected to move Obama’s acceptance speech from Bank of America Stadium to the far smaller Time Warner Cable Arena because that they couldn't fill the stadium with 75,000 democrats doesn't seem to be an issue. The DNC organizers insisted this logistical move was based on the weather forecast and not a projected low turnout. For the record the precipitation forecast Charlotte on Thursday night was 20%.

Even the leftie "New Republic" questioned the DNC's move in an article entitled:

"Why Did the DNC Move Obama’s Speech Inside: Weather or Low Turnout?"

In true liberal fashion the article offers the following rationalization. Nate Cohn writes "Instead, some say the event was canceled because Obama couldn’t fill the stadium. And if they couldn’t, it’s not hard to see why. No matter how you look at it, getting 75,000 people to attend an event in a modest city like Charlotte is really quite difficult: 75,000 people would constitute 16 percent of all Obama voters in the Charlotte metropolitan area, 3.5 percent of all Obama ’08 voters in the entire state of North Carolina, 8.5 percent of all Obama primary voters in North Carolina, or 3 percent of the total population of the Charlotte metropolitan area. The task of filling a stadium in Denver is somewhat easier on paper, but the enthusiasm surrounding Obama’s historic candidacy is really what made it look easy four years ago. With enthusiasm flagging, a repeat performance could have been out of reach." Really? If that is the case why even have the DNC in Charlotte? One of the fundementals of sales is "You've got to know the territory!" why pick a venue for an event where you may not have many supporters?

Corruption seems to be a fact of life when politicians from a rising minority group achieve elected office. There is no shortage of corrupt politicians in our nation's history. Boss Tweed, a Scots-Irish ran New York's Tammany Hall for years like a general on the battlefield. James Michael Curley, an Irish American was the popular mayor of Boston for four terms and also served as the state's governor. Curley was corrupt as they come but remained popular even as U.S. Marshals escorted him to fedeal prison. Louisiana had Huey P. Long and recently Edwin Edwards. Neither of those men were minorities but both came from rural Louisiana Parishes and humble means. They were "men of the people" that working class voters to readily identified with.

The cities of Detroit, Memphis and New Orleans have been governored by black politicians for decades and there is not shortage of corruption and malfescence. Regardless, the black majority of voting democrats continually relect the same incompent bumpkins who are destroying these great American cities.

Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was convicted of numerous corruption charges and served prison time. He's currently facing a 38-charge felony indictment on additional corruption charges, in what a federal prosecutor called a "pattern of extortion, bribery and fraud" by some of Detroit's most prominent officials.

New Orleans had Mayor "Sugar Ray" Nagin who proved that he was in way over his head when he continually failed to demonstrate leadership during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Representative William Jefferson is a Harvard educated attorney that represented Louisiana's Second Congressional District (Orleans Parish). On November 13, 2009, Jefferson was sentenced to thirteen years in federal prison for bribery after a corruption investigation, the longest sentence ever handed down to a congressman for bribery or any other crime.

Memphis has also had it's share of politicians whose ethics were questionable. Dr. Willie Herenton was elected as the Bluff City's first black mayor in 1991 and served largely unchallenged until 2009. While never connected directly with corruption scandals like the FBI/TBI investigation "Tennessee Waltz". "King Willie's" activities at City Hall and his less than cordial relationship with the Memphis City Council is nortorious to Memphians. Insiders alledged that "King Willie" was too smart to get caught!

Am I implying that all black politicians are corrupt? Of course not! Regardless of their race or ethnic group voters that blindly support elected officials who demonstrate patterns of corruption, malfesance and incompetence are clearly ignorant. There are honorable black elected officials at all levels of our government in both parties. Representatives Allen West and J.C. Watts are honest men that embody conservative values. The current mayor of Memphis AC Wharton is a Democrat but I think he's an honest man who's trying to improve his city. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Dr Condoleeza Rice, Michel Steele and Herman Cain all offer hope for the future of black politics in America. Regardless, as long as the majority of Democrat black politicians pander to their constituents with promises of entitlements and the false premise that "bigger government is better government" our society will be faced with the likes of Barrack Hussien Obama and men like him. It's up to intelligent and freedom loving people to stop buying the race card nonsense and elect politicians are going to bring this nation back to the constitutional principles that it was founded under.

[tac]

I question why the black community is so loyal and committed to the democrat party. The same party that destroyed the black families, withheld their civil rights for years until the republicans helped pass the civil rights act. LBJ's only purpose was to ensure that they voted democrat for generations, and he was successful. These are the same people that were victims of the KKK, and we had a democrat senator that was one of the leading members of that organization.

[SophisticatedRedneck]

I question why the black community is so loyal and committed to the democrat party. The same party that destroyed the black families, withheld their civil rights for years until the republicans helped pass the civil rights act. LBJ's only purpose was to ensure that they voted democrat for generations, and he was successful. These are the same people that were victims of the KKK, and we had a democrat senator that was one of the leading members of that organization.

Chief,
I've lived all over the south and worked for a time in Detroit. Many poor blacks simply don't see it the way that you and I do regarding what the Democrat party has done to "keep them down". L.B.J.'s "Great Society" did a huge disservice to blacks in this country. Since the days of L.B.J. generations of black have become accustomed to a wide range of entitlements that are all promised by Democrat politicians.

I recenty posted a quote from Memphis politician Dr. Kenneth Whalum that in spite of the fact the 65% of Memphis residents are black they own less than 1% of businesses in the city. That statistic says a lot to me. The city has thousands of businesses owned by minorities who are Hispanic, Arab, Asian, etc. I think that for some people it goes down to a matter of "why should I bark when I have a dog to bark for me?"

My job occasionally takes me to some pretty marginalized neighborhoods throughout the South. I often stop for gas and a drink in a few locally owned "stop and robs". It's not uncommon to see a young single black woman with several small children in tow using her EBT card to purchase sodas, candy and chips for these kids. At face value, that may not seem like a big deal but I know that this is dinner for these kids. Ironically, you can't purchase prepared food like a sandwich or a hot dog with an EBT card. For the record, this venue isn't in an urban area that the First Vacationer has labeled a "food desert". There is a well stocked Piggly Wiggly across the street. But cooking these kids a simple dinner of macraroni and cheese, beans and rice, pork chops and greens or beans and franks would probably be too much effort. Until that sense of entitlement is extinguished we will forever be saddled with an under class of people dependent on the government to survive.

[DoctorDoom]

Yo da O-nig*a be Supafly. His skin be black. Dat be all we's sees in da hood. Word up.

[tac]

SR 'entitlements' are destroying this country, and IMHO it's planned that way. The administration encourages more people to be on welfare, and that's the mentality that is slowly grinding us to the ash bin of history. Until the entitlement mentality is changed, we will continue to be a divided nation. I don't see any changes in the near future. Politicians buy the vote with 'free stuff', and like mindless robots we accept it.

[SophisticatedRedneck]

When some of the most "enterprising" residents of a community are criminal gang members you have a problem. Using a rather naive method to remove illegally acquired firearms from the streets of Memphis the city has established a "Guns for Gas Program".

Modeled after similar programs in other cities with too much gun crime, Gas for Guns offers a $50 gas card and two tickets to a Memphis Grizzlies game to anyone willing to trade in an unwanted gun — no questions asked.

Read about it and weep

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...-of-the-times/

[tac]

Good Lord, we are insane!

[DoctorDoom]

That's cool. Wait until the fools turn in their "unwanted" guns and then use the wanted gun to rob them of their $50 cards. That's enterprising.

[Justaguy]

Good Lord, we are insane!

what is shocking is that the entitlement mentality that has been embraced by both sides of the discussion. It's no longer up for discussion whether we should take from one group to give to another. The only discussion allowed now is what method to use and how much wealth should the government steal and redistribute.